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PostSubject: Netflix Series: Heartstopper   Netflix Series: Heartstopper EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 10:25 pm

I guess this was a big hit in England last year. It's about a budding romance at a boys grammar school in London.  The nerdy main character, Charlie, who is out, gets a crush on the rugby jock Nick, and it takes a few episodes before Nick decides he's bi. But Nick isn't ready to come out to his friends, so there's lots of drama.

It's very sweet and sex positive and the actors are all great.

The series is based on a graphic novel written by Alice Oseman, who I'm guessing is a lesbian.  The boys in the story are 16 years old, and their "romance" consists solely of kissing and snuggling.

I don't know about you, but when I was 16 my penis would not have been satisfied with kissing and hugging.  Boys may be more physical than girls, I don't know. It seemed very unrealistic to me that 16-year-old boys would be chaste. Girls, maybe. Boys never.

Also, literally everyone at the boys school (Fulham) and everyone at the associated girls school (Higgs) is gay. As the series develops everyone hooks up with everyone else -- in same sex couples.  This is another fantasy in the gay culture.  Straight people ("breeders") literally do not exist.

Even the teachers turn out to be gay.  All of them.

There is one opposite sex couple, but the Higgs girl (who is gorgeous) attended Fulham up until this this year, and a couple mentions are dropped that she left Fulham because of trans bullying.  So I guess she's a MTF trans?  Not really explored or explained, unfortunately, a real lost opportunity.

So, it was a feel-good two-season journey, from a lesbian writer, which was a totally unrealistic portrayal of real teens.  Almost Disneyfied maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: Netflix Series: Heartstopper   Netflix Series: Heartstopper EmptyTue Aug 08, 2023 11:15 am

Although maybe as a graphic novel, which is basically a comic book for older kids, the sex was eliminated to fit the market?
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PostSubject: Re: Netflix Series: Heartstopper   Netflix Series: Heartstopper EmptySat Oct 12, 2024 5:59 pm

Season Three dropped this week, and although charming, I have all the same reservations as Seasons One and Two.  Lots of TALK about love, but no sex (AFAICT).

And, as is the case with a lot of fiction written by queer authors, everyone is gay.  Even the characters who don't think they're gay eventually discover that, oh my gosh, they're gay.

Kind of a theme in gay fiction.

The lesbian author writes everyone as if they're a lesbian, even the boys. There's a lot of hugging and kissing and tears and drama, lots of drama, but no boners or boning. I have some gay friends, and I was a teenaged boy myself once. It wasn't like that. 16-year old boys do not endless fantasize about what it might be like to be in love.

Oh, and the pretty black girl who I thought might be trans? She came out as trans. Not a word about it for two seasons, and then in episode 5... oops there it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Netflix Series: Heartstopper   Netflix Series: Heartstopper EmptySat Oct 12, 2024 9:17 pm

Uh yeah, the webcomic is written as all lesbians too. The TV show is very faithful to the webcomic though.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/heartstopper/1-1/viewer?title_no=329660&episode_no=1
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PostSubject: Re: Netflix Series: Heartstopper   Netflix Series: Heartstopper EmptySat Oct 19, 2024 5:24 pm

In the last episode Elle, the trans girl, walks through a scene in skin-tight shorts.

I'm sorry, but she is NOT a pre-op MTF.  They could've AT LEAST given her a packer.

In the 2nd-to-last episode, Charlie and Nick finally "have sex."  Unfortunately the lesbian author apparently has no clue what that actually might mean with boys.  In her vision, both boys take off their shirts (only) and snuggle under the covers in bed, while giggling extravagantly.
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