2020 Democratic Candidates

The more you look into this Biden-Burisma thing, the hankier it looks. It's complicated, it's grey, it's way beyond what the electorate can or will follow.

I suspect the bottom line will be, Joe will be forced to withdraw from the race.

The sooner the better, as far as I'm concerned. We don't need any more candidates carrying the taint of scandal.

You can read & download the whistleblower letter here.

The gist of the conspiracy theory, apparently, is this:

Known facts: The DNC hired a California cybersecurity firm named Crowdstrike to investigate the hacking of their servers. Crowdstrike traced the hack back to Russian nationals supported by the Kremlin. They turned over their findings to the FBI and CIA intelligence agencies, who verified and publicly stated these conclusions.

Wild ass speculations: Crowdstrike's founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, was born in Russia and emigrated to the US as a teenager. Crowdstrike has funding ties to Google, whose former CEO supported Hillary's presidental bid. Alperovitch is also a senior fellow at The Atlantic Council, funded by Viktor Punchuk, a Ukrainian national.

THEREFORE, somehow Ukraine is behind the whole Steele Dossier and Mueller investigation, and initiated the DNC hack to discredit the Trump campaign. In fact, the DNC server -- with Hillary's 33,000 missing e-mails? -- is probably in Ukraine.

It's enough to make your head spin. But this is what Trump & Giuliani are asking demanding Ukraine investigate before they'll release the foreign aid.

Biden has a Burisma Holdings problem.

Sanders has health concerns.

Warren-Buttigieg in 2020.

NoCoPilot wrote:

In addition to Anita Hill, in addition to the NRA, Joe Biden has a Burisma Holdings problem.

And a Paradigm Global Advisors problem. Can we please just get past Joe Biden now? Democrats don't need this distraction.

Tom Steyer has made the cut for tomorrow's debate. It'll be interesting to see how he does.

But you know what? I don't think being a successful businessman is precisely the skillset a poilitician needs to run a country. Countries aren't like companies. Businessmen in political office tend to make stupid businessman mistakes, and ignore all of the vagaries that make government so much more challenging than business.

Warren is now the leading candidate. We'll see how tomorrow's debate shakes out -- I suspect Bernie's health and Biden's legal troubles will dominate the stage.

NoCoPilot wrote:

NoCoPilot wrote:

In addition to Anita Hill, in addition to the NRA, Joe Biden has a Burisma Holdings problem.

And a Paradigm Global Advisors problem.  Can we please just get past Joe Biden now?  Democrats don't need this distraction.

And a impeachment lynching problem. Take your football and go home Joe.

Tim Ryan is out -- who?

NoCoPilot wrote:

NoCoPilot wrote:

NoCoPilot wrote:

In addition to Anita Hill, in addition to the NRA, Joe Biden has a Burisma Holdings problem.

And a Paradigm Global Advisors problem.  Can we please just get past Joe Biden now?  Democrats don't need this distraction.

And a impeachment lynching problem.  Take your football and go home Joe.

And a Super PAC problem.  Seriously, Joe's gotta go.

NoCoPilot wrote:

 Seriously, Joe's gotta go.

Yup. Fraid so. It's a damn shame but idk if he could win it. And we need to win it.

Chatting with a couple of women in the elevator the other day, one of them argued that Biden had to be the candidate because too many idiots just will not vote for a woman or a gay man. And, to be honest, the argument is not without merit.

So I suggested a nasty trick. Biden-Warren is the ticket, and blows the Republicans away. After a brief interval to provide plausible deniability, say 3-6 months, Joe resigns because of ill-health. As the new president, Warren appoints Buttiegeg as her VP. Mission accomplished - dream team installed.

Beto O'Rourke is out.

Sounds like Kamala Harris will be next.

richard09 wrote:

As the new president, Warren appoints Buttiegeg as her VP. Mission accomplished

Hat Trick:

• First Black president
  
  
• First woman president
  
  
• First openly-gay (vice)president

Gotta get RuPaul in there somewhere.

This might be a game-changer. Bloomberg carries a lot more weight than most of the Democrat crowd, and would be a very viable substitute for Biden. Bloomberg-Warren sounds like a winning ticket to me.

Michael Bloomberg opens door to 2020 presidential campaign

Steve Bullock is out -- who?

Kamela Harris is out. Not too surprising; she was struggling. Still, I liked her.

Klobuchar is looking better and better, She's a centrist, and realistic. She does not yell. When she speaks, she makes sense.

Klobuchar-Buttigieg in 2020

A ticket NOBODY can spell!

richard09 wrote:

Chatting with a couple of women in the elevator the other day, one of them argued that Biden had to be the candidate because too many idiots just will not vote for a woman or a gay man. And, to be honest, the argument is not without merit.

So I suggested a nasty trick. Biden-Warren is the ticket, and blows the Republicans away. After a brief interval to provide plausible deniability, say 3-6 months, Joe resigns because of ill-health. As the new president, Warren appoints Buttiegeg as her VP. Mission accomplished - dream team installed.

Now, you're talking.

NoCo wrote:

Klobuchar is looking better and better,

Ew. I do not like her. Idk what it is, but just ew.

Julian Castro is out.

Bloomberg and Steyer have so far been unable to buy their way in.

Yang is hanging in there (surprisingly).

Marianne Williamson is out. Her candidacy was ALWAYS delusional.

Cory Booker is out. Too bad. The diversity of the Dems is withering to nada.

Delaney is out.  Yeah, THAT Delaney.