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PostSubject: Immigration   Immigration EmptyMon Mar 22, 2021 9:41 am

Biden inherited a flaming bag of poo from DJT, though to be fair it was Obama that lit it on fire, and GWB that filled the bag.

The problem is Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.  Economic devastation, crime, poverty, gangs and now hurricanes.

The pent-up demand stifled by DJT has resulted in 15,500 unaccompanied minors coming across the border since the election.  They've had to close the border again.

This is not a simple problem with a simple answer.  Repairing the Northern Triangle is the long-term solution, but that's going to be incredibly difficult and take a very long time.

Short term I think we need to put forward some creative solutions.  How about something like these:

  1. There are 12 million undocumented immigrants already living here.  How about giving them an accelerated path to citizenship if they foster an unaccompanied youth from their home country?
  2. The government has foreclosed on millions of homes.  How about making them available to adult immigrants for pennies-on-the-dollar, on the condition that they live in them a minimum of 5 years before flipping them?
  3. How about a matching funds program, when any money sent home by these immigrants is matched by the US government?
  4. Military service should be one path to citizenship -- instead of deportation as under DJT
  5. Rather than housing immigrants at the border under ICE authority, how about paying to create some new communities, with prefab homes and water and electricity where the immigrants are free to stay until they find better options?  Give leaders in the community a salary for maintaining security and starting schools and addressing the needs of the new arrivals?  Let them take care of their own?
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration   Immigration EmptyMon Mar 22, 2021 3:31 pm

From the New York Times daily email.

The Democrats’ immigration problem

For most of the past few decades, the Democratic Party had a pretty clear stance on immigration. It favored a mix of enforcement (like border security and the deportation of undocumented immigrants who committed serious crimes) and new pro-immigrant laws (like an increase in legal immigration and a pathway to citizenship for undocumented people).

In recent years, however, a growing number of immigration advocates and progressive Democrats have become dissatisfied with this combination. They have pointed out that Democrats’ support for tighter border security has not led to the bipartisan compromise that it was supposed to: Republicans continue to block bills that offer a pathway to citizenship.

In response, these progressives and activists have pushed the party to change. Bill Clinton ran for re-election on a platform that said, “We cannot tolerate illegal immigration and we must stop it.” Barack Obama once said, “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked.” President Biden has instead emphasized the humane treatment of immigrants, regardless of their legal status.

After taking office, Biden began putting this idea into action. He announced a 100-day halt on deportations (which a judge has blocked). He allowed more migrants — especially children — to enter the country, rather than being detained. And Central American migrants, sensing that the U.S. has become more welcoming, are streaming north in the largest numbers in two decades.

The surge appears to have surprised the Biden administration, as Doris Meissner of the Migration Policy Institute, who ran the Immigration and Naturalization Service in the 1990s, told me. Republicans have pounced, accusing Democrats of favoring an “open border.”

Some Democrats are unhappy, too. Biden’s policy “incentivizes droves of people to come, and the only way to slow it down is by changing policy at our doorstep,” Representative Vicente Gonzalez of Texas told The Washington Post. Henry Cuellar, another House Democrat from Texas, said the administration was sending “a terrible message.”

It all stems from the fact that the Democratic Party no longer has a clear policy on immigration.

Trump obscured the debate

While Donald Trump was president, he smoothed over the Democrats’ internal tensions because they could unite in opposition to him. Trump used racist language; Democrats abhorred it. Trump separated families and locked children in cages; Democrats promised to end those policies. Trump said he would build a border wall, paid for by Mexico; Democrats mocked his failure.

With Trump out of office, however, the party faces some hard, unresolved questions, including:

Do Democrats still favor the deportation of anyone? Some activists criticized Obama as the “deporter in chief.” But he focused deportations on only two groups: recent arrivals and immigrants who committed serious crimes.

If Democrats prefer a more lenient policy than Obama’s, it isn’t clear whether they support the deportation of anybody — or whether they instead believe that the humane solution is to allow everybody who manages to enter the U.S., legally or illegally, to remain. The party’s 2020 platform doesn’t mention any conditions in which deportation is acceptable. Biden’s attempt to halt deportations for 100 days highlights the party’s new attitude.

Which migrants should be turned away at the border? And what should happen to them next?

There are no easy answers. One option is to prevent people from entering (as is now the case with many adults traveling alone) — but that can create miserable conditions on Mexico’s side of the border. A second is to detain people in the U.S. while their legal cases are being considered — but detaining children is fraught, and many Democrats consider the jailing of any immigrants akin to Trumpism.

A third option is to admit migrants and order them to appear at a future legal hearing (as is happening with many children and families). The adults must often wear ankle bracelets. Still, the process can take years and raises other thorny issues. Many migrants are not good asylum candidates; they are coming to find work or to be near relatives, neither of which necessarily qualifies them for legal entry.

Often, the administration will still be left to decide whom it is willing to deport.

What’s the progressive policy?

There are potential policy solutions for all of these questions. The U.S. could increase legal immigration. It could build more detention facilities with humane conditions. It could do more to improve conditions in Latin America and to push Mexico to control its own southern border. The Biden administration is pursuing many of these policies.

But if Biden and his aides appear to be less steady on immigration than many other policy areas, there is a reason for that: They are less steady.

Congress appears unlikely to increase legal immigration levels by much. And polls show that while public opinion favors a pathway to citizenship for many undocumented immigrants, it also favors rigorous border security and the enforcement of existing immigration laws.

I’m not even sure that these views should be described as conservative. Historically, many progressives supported immigration restrictions as a way to keep U.S. wages high. Today, working-class Americans — including many Asian-American, Black and Latino voters — tend to favor more restrictions than progressive Democrats, who are often high-earning professionals, do. This contrast may play a role in Republicans’ recent gains among minority voters.

“Unfortunately, the way the debate plays out too frequently feels like, ‘Everybody should come and the border should be open,’” Cecilia Muñoz, a longtime immigrant advocate and former Obama adviser, told me. “And that’s the thing that makes Americans anxious.”

One of the advantages to the Democrats’ old approach to immigration was that it was easy to describe: Be firm at the border, be generous to people who have lived in the U.S. for years. The new approach also has an abiding idea: Be more welcoming to people who want to enter the country. But Democrats still have not figured out the limits to that idea, which has created an early problem for the Biden presidency.
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration   Immigration EmptyTue Jun 15, 2021 7:53 am

Heard a report on NPR this morning that ought to curl the hair of all the Trumpsters.

Families separated at the border, but since re-united, are being given free PTSD family counseling courtesy of the Biden Administration.  Many of these victims were pretty severely traumatized by Trump's inhumanity.

Second, there's a move afoot (a bill in Congress maybe?) to put these victim families at the head of the line for instant citizenship.  Reducing the paperwork and wait time as a partial compensation for their trauma.

I can hear Trump and Stephen Miller thrashing back and forth in their graves.

Here's the bad news though: record keeping was so shoddy or non-existent at the border that it is still unknown how many families were separated.  The task is exponentially harder because of piss-poor administration of the "Zero Tolerance Policy."
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PostSubject: Re: Immigration   Immigration EmptyTue Dec 27, 2022 2:15 pm

SCOTUS just voted to extend Title 42 indefinitely, turning away asylum seekers at the border on the basis of a perceived Covid risk.

While 11 million jobs in the US go unfilled.

If Greg Abbott is going to bus immigrants to Kamala Harris's house, Democrats should send bushels of rotted fruit to John Roberts' home.
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