NoCoPilot
Posts : 20311 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 70 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Gerrymandering Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:23 pm | |
| - Robert Reich wrote:
- To end Republican control of the House, Democrats need to win the national popular vote by nearly 11 points.4
That's because of Republican gerrymandering—profoundly unfair districts that stack the deck for Republicans. Right now, Democrats are just 3.9 points ahead in national polling.5 That's not good enough to win, using a conventional analysis.6 Assuming Democrats win back control of the House in November, should we gerrymander the districts to favor Democrats?  Or should we return them to some sort of neutral districting so the demographics of the population are represented exactly? Would it be naive to do the right thing? |
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Jenni Admin
Posts : 1448 Join date : 2013-01-16 Location : Jackson, MS
| Subject: Re: Gerrymandering Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:10 pm | |
| - NoCoPilot wrote:
- Would it be naive to do the right thing?
Right now, yes. Fight fire with fire. When we get back to some sort of normalcy where the other side plays fair then yes, we play fair. It's not a "two wrongs" situation. This isn't a playground argument over a swing. This is real shit and they absolutely cheat and we're trapped in a system they created to serve them so almost by definition and necessity we're gonna have to play outside of it. It's not going low, not if it's done for real reasons and not just to be an ass. |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20311 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 70 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Gerrymandering Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:44 pm | |
| ISTR the Dems did a lot of gerrymandering back when they had the power, neither side is blameless. Fuck Congress. Fuck all the Congressmen & women.
We need a complete overhaul, no career politicians, no lobbyists, no revolving doors.
The problems are too big to be fixed. MUST. LET. IT. GO. |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20311 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 70 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Gerrymandering Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:05 pm | |
| Turns out the Fourteenth Amendment, Second Clause is crystal clear on what has to happen to states who interfere with the right to vote, either by gerrymandering or by placing undue restrictions on it: They lose proportionate seats in Congress. - The Fourteenth Amendment wrote:
- Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
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