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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:03 pm | |
| We're considering selling our house and moving back into town, into a smaller house. Looking on the interwebs, it seems that every damn house around here has a fireplace. This is the central coast of California. Nobody needs a fireplace, and I've never known anyone to use one they have. My last two houses have had fireplaces and I've never used them. They just eat up a wall, reducing usable space, and limit the layout of the room.
Why do all these houses have unneeded, unused fireplaces?
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:44 pm | |
| In your neck of the woods, maybe not.
Up here in the rainy PNW I use my two gas fireplaces extensively during 6 months of the year. They were wood-burning when I bought the place, but neither one drew very well and I ended up with a roomful of smoke one too many times. |
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Jenni Admin
Posts : 1448 Join date : 2013-01-16 Location : Jackson, MS
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:45 pm | |
| Same reason why upper middle class and rich kids still wear jeans. It's "rustic". |
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Jenni Admin
Posts : 1448 Join date : 2013-01-16 Location : Jackson, MS
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:46 pm | |
| - NoCoPilot wrote:
- In your neck of the woods, maybe not.
Well, yeah, but that's the point. Why have that feature in homes built there. |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:56 pm | |
| It certainly gets cold enough here that everyone needs heat in the house. But why bother with a fireplace in a house that has central heating?
If I lived in one of those silly states that get extremely cold in the winter, I would have a old-fashioned, wood-burning fireplace, just in case the gas and/or electricity goes out.
The fireplace in my current house is gas with an electric valve and igniter: you just flip a switch on the wall and the thing fires up. It is useless for heating; it's just for decoration. Completely useless.
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:58 pm | |
| Mine heat their respective rooms -- living room, rec room -- quite admirably. Cheaper than central air, when we're not inhabiting every room. |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:06 pm | |
| It may be cheaper than central heating up there, but I doubt that would be the case here. The cost of living in this area is 65% higher than the national average (not including housing, which has a median price 2.5 times the national).
I wouldn't be surprised if having someone deliver a few cords of firewood would be greater than the seasonal cost of gas heating.
When I write shit like this, it makes me want to move away, but what the hell, I've been here since FDR was president; might as well finish up here.
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:12 pm | |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:18 pm | |
| - Quote :
- When looking out to the beginning of the next century,
Chances of my being there are quite small. |
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Jenni Admin
Posts : 1448 Join date : 2013-01-16 Location : Jackson, MS
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:19 pm | |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:51 pm | |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:14 pm | |
| The song you quote is by a group called Shango (I have the LP -- I turned it into a CDR.) The song by Badfinger is an entirely different song: - Quote :
- DAY AFTER DAY
(Pete Ham) Badfinger
I remember finding out about you Every day my mind is all around you Looking out from my lonely room, day after day Bring it home, maybe someday soon I give my love to you I remember holding you while you sleep Every day I feel the tears the tears that you weep Looking out of my lonely gloom, day after day Bring it home, maybe someday soon I give my love to you ...... Looking out of my lonely room, day after day Bring it home, maybe someday soon I give my love to you I remembert finding out about you Every day my mind is all around you Looking out from my lonely room, day after day Bring it home, maybe someday soon I give my love to you |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:38 pm | |
| Mea culpa.
I have no idea why I thought that was a Badfinger song. I am familiar with their song called Day After Day. Don't know why I did that (but in 10 days, I am going to start calling every one of my fuckups a senior moment, and you will be required to overlook them). |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:41 pm | |
| Happy un-belated birthday. 8/29? |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:43 pm | |
| Good god, man. Don't rush it!
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:48 pm | |
| 70 is just a number.
Closer to infinity than zero. |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:17 am | |
| - NoCoPilot wrote:
- 70 is just a number.
Say that again in ten years. |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:19 am | |
| I don't expect to be able to. |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:22 am | |
| Didn't your parents live quite long lives?
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:50 am | |
| Yes. But none of my dogs did. |
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Jenni Admin
Posts : 1448 Join date : 2013-01-16 Location : Jackson, MS
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:47 pm | |
| They say genetics has a lot to do with your life span. A lot. If that's the case 85 is my upper limit. Even the healthy people in my family never live past 85 and I imagine that even if I lose the weight a lot of damage has been done already. I'd love to go all the way to 85 but I think 70 is more realistic. |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:49 pm | |
| I never meant to make it to 40. |
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Jenni Admin
Posts : 1448 Join date : 2013-01-16 Location : Jackson, MS
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:52 pm | |
| Oh me neither. But now at almost 40, 60 doesn't look scary. I see that while my body changes I am still me, so it's less scary than it was at say 16. I was scared I'd change, that they'd break me, wear me down. But I'm still me. Smarter, sharper, more focused, but still me. |
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NoCoPilot
Posts : 20276 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 69 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:01 pm | |
| - Jenni wrote:
- I was scared I'd change, that they'd break me, wear me down. But I'm still me. Smarter, sharper, more focused, but still me.
I figured they DID break me. I'm nearing the end of my life and never done anything interesting. I spent my whole life just working to pay the bills. I never got ahead of the game until the past couple of years -- when I've been too old & crippled to do anything. I'm happily married. That's my only saving grace. |
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_Howard Admin
Posts : 8734 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 79 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fireplaces? Why? Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:17 pm | |
| Many studies have shown that genetics is the major determinant in your expected life span. For those of us with progenitors who die relatively young, that is not good news; NoCo certainly has more to look forward to on that basis.
At least I have had an interesting life - maybe not always a good one, but interesting nonetheless. And I'm not talking about interesting in the same way that tourists do. I find them boring as hell. |
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