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PostSubject: North Korea   Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:09 am

Is it possible the Rodeo Clown has actually done something useful?

It’ll be interesting to see if Kim has any public comments about meeting Donald when he gets home (and if the US press reports them if he does).  Would be hilarious if he described him as an idiot, as most who meet him do.
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:03 am

My understanding is that the summit basically had Kim confirming what he had said to South Korea a little while back. Which didn't actually amount to any concrete promises about anything.

In return, Trump got a photo-op which was actually much more valuable to Kim. And Trump agreed to back off on military exercises and conventional forces, which is part of what Kim wanted, and was also an alarming surprise for South Korea.

Difficult to see this as any sort of win for anybody except North Korea and China.
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:04 am

I had wondered about that (the suspension of joint SK/US military exercises).  Seems like a pretty major victory for Kim.  But I'm not sure it's a bad thing, either.
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Which didn't actually amount to any concrete promises about anything.
North Korea has never been shy about breaking agreements.
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:05 am

They haven't actually promised to do anything, so it seems as if breaking an agreement isn't necessary this time. Oh yes, they're going to "work towards" stuff. If anyone can define what that means, maybe they won't do it.
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:30 pm

Kim played Trump like a fiddle. He got the international show of respect his father and grandfather have been seeking for sixty years.
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:43 pm

Maybe Kim will get a few business pointers from Trump. North Korea will be bankrupt in six months.
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:00 am

The title is a stretch, but the ending has punch.

Trump accidentally admits everything he’s been saying about North Korea’s nukes is a lie
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On Wednesday, The Wall Street Journal reported that the idea of ending joint military exercises with South Korea — one that took both American and South Korean officials by surprise when it was announced following the Singapore summit — came from Russian strongman Vladimir Putin.

“Trump had an idea about how to counter the nuclear threat posed by North Korea, which he got after speaking to Russian President Vladimir Putin: If the U.S. stopped joint military exercises with the South Koreans, it could help moderate Kim Jong Un’s behavior,” the Journal reported.

edit: someone else thinks that Trump is owned by the Kremlin.
RUSSIA STATE MEDIA DECLARES: 'TRUMP IS OURS!'
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PostSubject: Re: North Korea   Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:57 pm

Trump is blaming China for North Korea impasse, but real fault may lie closer to home
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Citing multiple individuals familiar with the negotiations, Vox reported Wednesday that Trump told Kim Jong Un in Singapore that he would sign a declaration to end the Korean War soon after their meeting.

Since then, the Trump administration has repeatedly asked Pyongyang to first dismantle most of its nuclear arsenal. That explains the current stalemate in negotiations, Vox reported.

“If that’s true, that’s why the North Koreans are dragging their feet,” said Robert Kelly, a professor of political science at Pusan National University in South Korea. “That’s Trump’s blunder.”

North Korea believes that Trump made the same promise — to declare an end to the war — to Kim Yong Chol, a top North Korean official close to Kim Jong Un, at the White House on June 1 — 11 days before the summit, Vox also reported.

 The bill comes due. This was exactly the risk of Trump freelancing in Singapore: making promises to Kim Jong Un (and earlier Kim Yong Chol) that the Administration could not and would not deliver on. Things may quickly heat back up, and this one is squarely on Trump. https://t.co/xPvXI3kLgv
— Vipin Narang (@NarangVipin) August 29, 2018
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