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PostSubject: Throw the rascals out   Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:48 pm

This is actually a pretty interesting article. Not saying I agree with everything, but it does raise the right issues.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-22/democrats-are-stupid-too.html
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:18 pm

It does raise some right issues, but it seems to stick to the right-wing wrong answers.
Overall, I give this article a D-.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:20 pm

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If you ask me, the politicians who designed the strategy of threatening to default and the others who went along with it have shown themselves unfit to hold public office.
Amen, brother.

If I was the DNC, I would be taking out full-page ads all over the country and on TV listing the 144 House Republicans who voted to sabotage our country's economy. I would list their office addresses, their telephone numbers, when they come up for re-election and Democrats announced for their seats.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:30 pm

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If I was the DNC, I would be taking out full-page ads all over the country and on TV listing the 144 House Republicans who voted to sabotage our country's economy.  I would list their office addresses, their telephone numbers, when they come up for re-election and Democrats announced for their seats.
Yup. Evil or Very Mad  This whole ordeal was so silly and unnecessary. Look, I'm not happy with Obamacare. I'm not happy with my lack of choices. But taking it out on people who can't do anything about it is not the answer. Those fuckers in congress are never subject to getting hit with the shitstorms they create and that annoys the crap out of me. They fiddle fart around with other people's lives and they never face real consequences because even if we vote them out they still get pensions and private sector jobs based on the shit they pulled in office.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:48 pm

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I'm not happy with my lack of choices.  
Really? I heard for most people there were a plethora of choices, so many that it was confusing to choose the right one. Very similar to Medicare prescription drug plans.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:02 pm

The number of choices you have varies greatly from state to state, and is determined primarily by the insurance companies, not the ACA.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:21 pm

Mississippi does not have a state exchange, therefore the federal exchange is active.  Looks like only two providers, Humana and Magnolia, have elected to participate, leading to the 3rd highest rates in the country.

Another good reason to move.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:59 pm

Another good reason to do away with this whole "States' Rights" bullshit.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:08 pm

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Another good reason to do away with this whole "States' Rights" bullshit.
Or maybe embrace it. Listen, what would we lose? Cotton is not such a cash crop anymore, and probably most of it gets imported from India anyway. Tobacco is a dying industry, the sooner the better. We'd lose Cape Canaveral but so what, NASA is on the ropes.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:11 pm

Yeah, embrace this, noob.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:06 pm

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Mississippi does not have a state exchange, therefore the federal exchange is active.  Looks like only two providers, Humana and Magnolia, have elected to participate, leading to the 3rd highest rates in the country.

Another good reason to move.
Yup. It's more than our rent was. Like way more. It's crazy. And that one quote I got was just for Ben and I.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:09 pm

The sad part is it's like Obama fell right into their trap because these fuckers down here are gonna push the line that see, youre paying out the nose because Democrats/Obama/socialism when really it's this stupid compromise that it took to get the Reps on board. All these mass numbers of poor southerners will hear the Fox Noise lies and because our education is for crap and our economy is for crap they will buy the lies and stay Rep.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:27 am

Yep. Institutional stupidity, generational poverty.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:21 am

One of the best ideas I heard during the period when the healthcare act was being designed was to just lower the minimum age for Medicare every few years. A commensurate small increase in the tax would be required, of course. This would give all concerned industries enough time to make whatever adjustments were required. No big economic shock (and, of course, less for the troglodytes to complain about).
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:29 am

Medicare is already looking at a huge bump as us baby-boomers hit that magic 65.  After we're gone the costs will drop dramatically.

"Baby boomer" status is conferred on births 1946-1964, so the surge officially hit in 2011 and will last until 2029.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:15 pm

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Medicare is already looking at a huge bump as us baby-boomers hit that magic 65.  After we're gone the costs will drop dramatically.
You know, if you take out that precipitous twenty-year decline in the birth rate from around 1922 to 1939, and straighten out the line in the graph, the Baby Boomer spike is not that significant when compared to the 1922-1939 and 1964-1976 declines.

According to the Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans aged sixty-five and older will increase from around twelve percent in 2011 to around twenty percent in 2030 (a nearly-twenty-year period) and will remain there.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:12 pm

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... and will remain there.
Don't forget the asteroid in 2032.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:19 pm

Your warning has come too late. My ability to forget is astounding.

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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:19 pm

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... the percentage of Americans aged sixty-five and older will increase from around twelve percent in 2011 to around twenty percent in 2030
If you figure there's about a 40-year gap between those collecting SS/MC and those paying for it, the kids born 1971-1989 are the ones really getting screwed by us baby boomers.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:33 pm

You Baby Boomers are not to blame for the mistakes made by the government. Except, of course, for those of you who vote for Republicans. Many post-Boomers do not have the same opinion as I have, and they like to blame you for everything (but they still want to inherit your stuff).

For over a hundred years, various Congressmen and presidents have tried to institute universal health care in this country, and they have failed because of right-wing ideology and the almost-unbelievable greed of American businessmen. Long before there was a baby boom, the right wing was denying the American people the same kind of health-care security that every other developed nation has.

Razz  Quit beating yourself up over being a Baby Boomer. Get yourself a "Boomers Unite" bumper sticker. Or maybe one that says "Boomers Rule" of "Boomers Have Huge Dicks" (no need to try to be clever). Be proud of your role in "destroying the economy of the country." Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:10 pm

My generation is the first in our nation's history to pass along a country substantially poorer, substantially sicker, more in debt, with a gloomier future than we inherited. If my parents were "the greatest generation" that makes us navel-gazers "the worst."
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:47 pm

And you want to  take personal responsibility for that? Okay. Then please answer the following questions:

-  Were you involved in moving millions of jobs offshore?
-  Did you help destroy the union movement?
-  Was it your scheme that allows the wealthy to pay very little in taxes?
-  Are you a founding member of the Tea Party?
-  Did you devise the primary election schemes to put certified idiots in Congress?
-  Were you a designer of the criminal financial services industry?

If you answered "Yes" to one or more of the above questions, then it's your fault, so go fuck yourself. Otherwise, put the blame where it belongs: an amoral and unsustainable economic system supported by a whore-filled government.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:41 am

It all started with the lost promise of the Kennedy Administration, sacrificed to Organized Crime.  Johnson escalated the Viet Nam War and alienated a generation.  Nixon blew that gap wide open. Ford was our first unelected (and unelectable) president, instead of healing the nation he poured salt on our wound.  Carter was a good man but the task of healing the schism of the previous 14 years was just too great -- and he had to fight the Mafia.  Reagan welcomed the Mafia with open arms and gave them everything they wanted, allowing them to go mainstream and erasing the barriers that kept them in check.

Since then, it's been hi-ho times for La Cosa Nostra.
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PostSubject: Re: Throw the rascals out   Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:00 pm

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And you want to  take personal responsibility for that? Okay. Then  please answer the following questions:

-  Were you involved in moving millions of jobs offshore?
-  Did you help destroy the union movement?
-  Was it your scheme that allows the wealthy to pay very little in taxes?
-  Are you a founding member of the Tea Party?
-  Did you devise the primary election schemes to put certified idiots in Congress?
-  Were you a designer of the criminal financial services industry?

If you answered "Yes" to one or more of the above questions, then it's your fault, so go fuck yourself. Otherwise, put the blame where it belongs: an amoral and unsustainable economic system supported by a whore-filled government.
Dammit. I hate it when you make me change my position. Ok fine. I won't blame the boomers. Evil or Very Mad 

Seriously.

You don't think they just have this horrible sense of entitlement?
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