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PostSubject: The Likelihood of Impeachment   Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:00 pm

More and more voices are calling for the normalization of impeachment of DJT, which is pretty odd for a president in his 1st year of his 1st term -- that's usually considered his "honeymoon period" -- but even with all of this talk in the air I can't see it happening with this Congress.  Even *if* Mueller comes back with charges in 2018.  

I think Democrats are promoting the idea in order to delegitimize Trump's presidency, in much the same way Republicans seized on every opportunity to investigate / slander / wound president Obama and Hillary Clinton every single day.  If you listened to Fox News any day from 2008-2016 they told you indictments and impeachment were just around the corner.

With Trump, I believe the legal jeopardy may in fact be there, and Mueller is quite likely to return indictments against Jeff Sessions, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr. and Donald Trump Sr. (in addition to Manafort, Flynn, Gates and Papadopoulis already indicted).

But whether these would be grounds for impeachment... with this Congress...

House needs a simple majority vote to put forth Articles of Impeachment, but the Senate needs a two-thirds majority to convict & remove from office.  

Nope, don't see that happening.   Even *if* the Democrats win sweeping victories in the November 2018 mid-terms.  There simply aren't enough seats up for consideration to result in a 67% Democratic majority.

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There are 23 Democratic seats, eight Republican seats, and two seats held by independents up for election in 2018. In 2018, the Democratic Party will need to pick up three seats in the Senate in order to regain the majority they lost in 2014.

Nope.  Dems have 48 currently, and even if they held all 23, gained the 8 Republican seats and 2 Independent seats, that's still only 58 votes.  Dems could quite easily win a majority next November, but not the 2/3 majority required for impeachment.

So, no.

The orange clown will stay in office unless he decides to quit, or somebody invokes the 25th Amendment -- which has to be forwarded by the Vice President, and approved by a 2/3 majority of BOTH houses.  So no chance of that either.

Crap.  It'll have to wait until Nov. 2020, when 12 Democratic and 21 Republican Senate seats are up for election.  Will the USA last that long?
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PostSubject: Re: The Likelihood of Impeachment   Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:33 pm

On the other side, all 435 seats in the House are up for election.  Dems need to gain 25 to win a majority.  24 Republicans have already announced their intention to step down, so won't be running again. Only one incumbent needs to be unseated.  14 Democrats are retiring.  So I can easily see a 2/3 Democratic majority in the House starting 2019, that's only 97 seats they need to gain (40% of the Republican majority).  I wouldn't be surprised to see 60% swing on election day.
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PostSubject: Re: The Likelihood of Impeachment   Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:51 pm

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Crap.  It'll have to wait until Nov. 2020, when 12 Democratic and 21 Republican Senate seats are up for election.  Will the USA last that long?
Come to think of it, the clown will be up that day too. Never mind about impeachment. Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: The Likelihood of Impeachment   Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:54 pm

Unless Trump pisses off the Republicans enough that THEY initiate it. Which is starting to look increasingly possible.
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“I will never sign another bill like this again”

Yeah, because you’ll be impeached.
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PostSubject: Re: The Likelihood of Impeachment   Yesterday at 7:13 pm

Trump sucking off Vladimir Putin in public has raised the impeachment issue again. Really strong words being thrown around.
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