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PostSubject: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:07 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:18 pm

Let's hope so.

But color me pessimistic.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:27 pm

The alt-right blogosphere is now buzzing with the meme that it would be inappropriate for Mueller's probe to investigate the president's financial dealings from 5 or 10 years ago.  Obviously there is great fear that Mueller will find money laundering and Foreign Practices Act violations and indications that Donald's "multi-billion dollar empire" is actually a couple hundred mil leveraged to the hilt.

Illegal behavior is prosecutable regardless of the station of the subject, and the president's pardon power is limited when it comes to family and associates.  If not by statute, then by Congress.  

Fox is reporting that Democrats are behind the probe, and the whole thing is a thinly-disguised effort to overthrow the election they lost.  We'll see if that spin gets any traction outside the Fox echo chamber.

Regardless, I fail to see an outcome that places Hillary in the Oval Office.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:27 pm

Is there any provision in the US for a special (off-date) election, or are you stuck working your way down the "line of succession" until you find someone who isn't being prosecuted?
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:15 pm

The latter.

Unless somebody can prove that the vote count was tampered with.  

Which isn't even being alleged.  Votes may have been (probably WERE)  suppressed, but no evidence has emerged that any votes were changed.  Although it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:34 pm

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Let's hope so.
If actions reveal where Mueller's secret probe is headed, today's report of a pre-dawn raid on Paul Manafort's home last month indicates some serious federal charges are coming.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:35 pm

Just announced, Monday 10/30 the Mueller probe will issue the first indictment(s) of their investigation.

No word as to whom, or how many.  Or if this will be an ongoing thing with more to follow (as seems likely).

Best guess: first up, Paul Manafort for perjury.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:53 am

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The indictment against Manafort and Gates contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.
 
Speculation is Mueller is hoping Manafort will flip, and turn state's evidence. As Papadopoulos already has.

You know who else was an "unregistered agent of a foreign principal"?  Don Jr.


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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:04 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:18 pm

Prosecutor to Trump: Shut Up or Face Gag Order From Russia Probe Special Counsel
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Attorney Nick Akerman, a prosecutor in the Watergate investigations, told Politico Friday that Mueller could issue a gagging order to prevent the president interfering with the investigation.

He warned that the president had defamed a potential government witness who is likely to be called in a federal trial.

“This could be grounds for Mueller to obtain a gag order on Trump,” Akerman said. “It would be unprecedented, but he is interfering with the government’s right to a fair trial.”

In order for a gag order to be imposed on the president, Mueller would have to have the request signed off by a federal judge who agreed that the president’s public statements risked prejudicing the case. The federal judge overseeing the criminal trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and business partner Rick Gates, who were indicted Monday, said she is inclined to impose a gag order in the case.

I bet you could run an interesting over-under on Trump's blood pressure if that happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:56 am

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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:18 am

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Fox is reporting that Democrats are behind the probe, and the whole thing is a thinly-disguised effort to overthrow the election they lost.  We'll see if that spin gets any traction outside the Fox echo chamber.
It got A LOT of traction inside the Fox echo chamber, but none outside.

And now it's been conclusively disproven, thanks to Dianne Feinstein.

Which raises the interesting constitutional question: if BOTH Trump and Pence are indicted for high crimes and misdemeanors, does Paul Ryan assume the presidency?

I would assume not, since being indicted -- even convicted -- is not automatic grounds for removal.  That old 2/3 vote for impeachment is still the only process for removing a president.

And/or vice president.

And this Congress will not be impeaching anyone.

Especially since Ryan is universally despised within both houses of Congress.
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PostSubject: Re: Mueller Impanels a Grand Jury   Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:54 pm

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