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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Thu May 04, 2017 11:15 am

House Republicans are scheduled to vote again today to repeal the ACA, and this time they think they have the votes. Maybe by only 2-3 votes though.

But their bill has exactly zero chance of passing the Senate.

Why do they even fucking bother, I mean really. When Obama was president they voted to repeal Obamacare, what, sixty times?  Don't they have any other pressing business?

Hey, do you think if the ACA was nicknamed Romneycare, do you think they'd be so gung-ho to repeal it at any cost?  Is it just the fact that his name is attached that makes it necessary for them to get it out of the public discourse?

Of course I'm still convinced Big Pharma is behind the effort, because they fear any effort to control costs.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Thu May 04, 2017 11:54 am

It just passed 217 to 213.

I see 217 Republican Congressmen in danger of losing their jobs in 2018.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Thu May 04, 2017 11:59 am

A lot of the Republicans were afraid of having a far right candidate in the primaries using a no vote against them. Well, that and they are a bunch of assholes.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Thu May 04, 2017 6:41 pm

25 republican seats are up for election in 2018. Dems need 24 to swing the house.

Seems like a long shot, frankly.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Thu May 04, 2017 7:22 pm

All the news channels are pointing out that what was passed was actually a HUGE tax cut for the top 1% ($30 billion) with a repeal of Obamacare tacked on to pay for it.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/04/news/economy/tax-cuts-obamacare-repeal/index.html
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Fri May 12, 2017 8:18 am

There are rants and there are rants. This is a good one, right to the face of a shitbag who really deserves it.

https://www.facebook.com/actdottv/videos/626874850836418/
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Fri May 12, 2017 11:05 am

Yeah, and the shitbag just stands there. He knows his constituents don't fund his campaigns.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:36 pm

NoCoPilot wrote:
All the news channels are pointing out that what was passed was actually a HUGE tax cut for the top 1% ($30 billion) with a repeal of Obamacare tacked on to pay for it.
Well on further clarification, what the lefty news organizations are calling "a HUGE tax cut for the top 1%" is actually a canceling of the huge tax increases levied against high earners and corporations by Obamacare to pay for health care for the poor. This was the goal all along, for the House Republicans, who dance to the tune called by Wall Street and other obscenely rich individuals.

The new Senate version of the bill is basically a return to pre-Obamacare status quo, where those who can afford insurance can buy it on the open market, and those who cannot must do without. Of course this shifts the costs of uncompensated health care to the insured, causing premiums to skyrocket from all the poor people visiting the emergency rooms. If I recall correctly, this is where we came in with Obamacare?

But at least the rich donor class isn't getting dinged with any social responsibility they don't feel obligated to pay.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:06 pm

NoCoPilot wrote:
25 republican seats are up for election in 2018.  Dems need 24 to swing the house..

Actually, 239 Republican House seats are up for election in 2018.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:58 pm

The American Healthcare Act (foreverafter to be known as "Trumpcare"), which will control 1/6 of the U.S. economy -- or about two-and-a-half trillion dollars -- was drafted by 13 old white men who have excellent 100% government-paid-for-life healthcare. They worked in a room with no input from women, no input from poor people, no input from those with chronic conditions, no input from veterans, no input from retired people, no input from the uninsured.

Who *DID* they get input from? They've admitted this, lobbyists from Big Pharma and Big Insurance. And the Heritage Foundation and Cato Institute, which are funded by Ayn Rand-worshipping billionaires. "Let them eat cake," they proclaim, as they light their cigars with $100 bills.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:55 pm

Up to eight Republicans vowed not to vote for this piece of shit, so McConnell had to pull off the floor.

Obamacare repeal is dead, long live Obamacare!


So far the ONLY piece of legislation the Trump White House, Republican-controlled House of Representatives and Republican-controlled Senate have managed to pass, in 150 days in office, is ONE BILL making it easier to fire employees of the Veterans Administration. (It was a bill that began life during the Obama Administration.)

Forget the "first 100 days." This president will like have next-to-nothing to show for his time in office.

Hopefully.

Unless Justice Kennedy retires Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:05 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:21 pm

This article says twelve Republican Senators opposed the bill.

Of course 48 Democratic Senators also opposed it.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:53 am

I feel like I've been reading Trump's tweets.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:05 am

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This article says twelve Republican Senators opposed the bill.

Of course 48 Democratic Senators also opposed it.
Of course this means 40 Republican Senators were in favor of cutting $869 billion out of Medicaid to the poor, throwing 22 million Americans off insurance (15 million in 2018 alone!) and granting a massive tax cut to the extremely wealthy.

McConnell wanted to get the thing passed before the July 4 holiday (which lasts until 7/10 for them) because the Congressmen are liable to get a lot of angry voter reaction while they're back in their districts.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:54 am

Repubs have been fomenting against Obamacare for seven years, voted 55 times to repeal it, and now that they actually have the power... can't even get a bill to the floor.

It was all political theater, apparently.


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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:30 pm

In his continuing effort to deflect attention from his Russian collusion investigation, Trump tweeted this morning that Republicans should just repeal Obamacare now, and worry about replacing it someday down the road.

There's a good idea, huh.  No downside to THAT plan.

Now, about this Russia thing....
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:56 pm

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Mitch McConnell just announced that he plans to bring Trumpcare up for a final vote before senators go home to meet with our constituents—he's taken the unprecedented step of delaying the start of the August state work period until August 14 to give himself time to get the bill through.

This is it, my friends. If McConnell can't get it done by August 14, Trumpcare is likely dead. But McConnell is offering Republican senators all kinds of deals to get the last few votes he needs, and he wouldn't be delaying the start of the recess unless he thought that he had at least a decent chance to get the votes.

Over the next three weeks, every Republican senator will face enormous pressure from the GOP to get on board, so we need to put even more pressure on them to vote no.
The Washington Post is reporting that the bill still has no chance of passing.

SEVEN YEARS the GOP has been saying they'll repeal the ACA.

NPR reported today that McConnell will be selling his colleagues the story that ANYTHING -- even a terrible bill -- is preferable to utter failure on "agenda item #1." Let's hope at least three senators see through that horseshit.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:20 am

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...Republicans should just repeal Obamacare now...

They can't repeal it. The "revisions" bill they are working on can be passed with fifty-one votes under budget reconciliation. A repeal of the ACA cannot be passed under BR, so they would need sixty votes. That won't happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:48 am

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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:02 pm

I make every reasonable effort to avoid seeing or hearing that asshole, and you paste his ugly mug here. Shame on you. Bad NoCo.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:49 pm

McConnell failed again, couldn't come up with the votes for his piece of shit legislation.

Maybe he'll actually have to hold hearings, draft amendments, get input... you know, the PROPER way to handle 1/6 of the US economy.

Meanwhile the Moron-In-Chief says "Let Obamacare fail, we won't own it.". But of course he will.

Which makes me wonder -- why ARE the insurance companies raising premiums left and right?  Why are they pulling out of markets all over the country?  Were the economics of the original ACA that far wrong?  Or are the insurance companies playing fast and loose and causing all this chaos on purpose? (And where are the fucking state insurance regulators, praytell?)

Maybe... maybe if it collapses (further) there will be a new appetite for single payer.  Maybe Trump will bring us socialized medicine afterall, even if inadvertently?
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:30 am

The country already has socialized medicine. More than half of all medical care is paid for with taxpayer dollars. And that is without the ACA.
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:36 am

"Keep government hands off my Medicare"!
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PostSubject: Re: Obamacare    Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:41 am

NHE.com (National Health Expediture) wrote:

  • Medicare spending grew 4.5% to $646.2 billion in 2015, or 20 percent of total NHE.
  • Medicaid spending grew 9.7% to $545.1 billion in 2015, or 17 percent of total NHE.
  • Private health insurance spending grew 7.2% to $1,072.1 billion in 2015, or 33 percent of total NHE.
  • Out of pocket spending grew 2.6% to $338.1 billion in 2015, or 11 percent of total NHE.

20 + 17 + 33 + 11 = 81%
NHE.com wrote:

  • The largest shares of total health spending were sponsored by the federal government (28.7 percent) and the households (27.7 percent).   The private business share of health spending accounted for 19.9 percent of total health care spending, state and local governments accounted for 17.1 percent, and other private revenues accounted for 6.7 percent.

28.7 + 27.7 + 19.9 + 17.1 + 6.7 = 100.1%
Federal gov't 28.7 + state & local gov't 17.1 = 45.8%
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