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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:17 pm

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Here is a small article about various audio file formats.
Stereophile holds no credibility, if you poke around on their website they've been totally off the rails for years.

Just to save you the trouble of researching a reply however I'll throw you a bone.  I'm 62 years old now, my ears test as dead to frequencies above 12,000Hz.  When I say a format sounds fine to be, that's probably because my ears are made of cloth these days.

I do what sounds good to me -- not what some yahoo at a totally discredited online rag is trying to sell.

And truth be told, I have more than a few bootlegs and ancient old 78 dubs with excreable sound that I'm able to listen to just fine, if I hold my nose. Immaculate sound is a bonus -- not the sole reason for listening to music.

You Microsofties get the icing confused with the cake sometimes.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:31 pm

I haven't heard the word "Microsofties" in many years. That what we used to call the employees of Microsoft whom we had to deal with.
It is insulting and incorrect to refer to me in such a way. Have I ever made a statement denigrating you for preferring Apple computers? (Hint: the answer is No.)

You said, "I do what sounds good to me.." That makes perfect sense. That is far different from making a statement that ACC is superior to flac, which is what I was responding to, and which you initially brought up. I had made no comments about the capabilities of one format over another. I only mentioned the flac format as an example of the manner in which the iTunes program skips over unsupported files without any notice to the user.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:38 pm

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iTunes program skips over unsupported files without any notice to the user.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5078781?start=0
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:41 pm

What's your point?
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:58 pm

No point. Just that the list of supported formats is well known.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:04 pm

Incidentally when I said that AAC is superior to Flac, I include file size in the calculation. Sound quality, portability, file size and availability.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:30 pm

Got a Firefox question for ya.
I just updated to Firefox 49.0.1 and now it's doing something strange.
When I drag the page-with-arrow icon on this forum, it magnifies it. And not just on this forum; it happens on other sites.

The image is normally very small looks like this (ignore the text above the image):

Now, after the update, when I drag that image, it turns into this:

Anyone else using the latest Firefox who has noticed this?
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:17 am


  1. I'm on 49.0.1 so my behavior may differ
  2. Not sure if being on Apple makes a difference
  3. It took me a minute to FIND the "page-with-arrow" icon as I've never used it before.  It appears to be another way to open a thread (besides just clicking on it)
  4. You say you "drag the icon" -- to where?  Why?
  5. When i click the icon I do not get any enlarged image
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:25 am

That icon is a link to the latest post in that topic. If you drag in to the tabs bar, it will open the topic at the last post in a new tab.

Clicking on it causes no action.
Try dragging it and see what happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:38 am

Further checking shows that some web sites with dragable icons do not display this anomaly. Internet Explorer does not exhibit the problem with this web site, while Firefox does.

Very strange. I wish Firefox had a version rollback ability.

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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:41 pm

I'm at the new house and have only my phone for a computer.

I just signed sales documents on our property up on Camano Island, but I cannot drag an icon to the tabs bar.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:43 pm

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Clicking on it causes no action.
Opens the most recent post for me. Not quite sure why you'd need to do that in a new tab.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:47 pm

My bad. Yes, clicking on the icon opens the post in the current tab.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:33 pm

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Not quite sure why you'd need to do that in a new tab.

I am using this as an example of the issue, knowing that all here have this site.

When you are at your computer, try dragging the "Log In," "Home," or other icon under the header image. See if it is magnified when dragging.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:11 pm

Okay. It is something changed in the latest version of Firefox.

A lot of users of Windows 7 complain about the large icons created when dragging and dropping in general. It has never bothered me, and never appeared in Firefox until 49.0.1.

I had updated Firefox immediately before updating iTunes. There are sometimes unintended problems created by, and broadcast by, programs, owing to revised DLLs, etc. As it was easy to uninstall iTunes (and I don't really need it; I only installed it to back up my iPhone before changing the battery, and it turned out that  I didn't even need to do that), I first tried uninstalling iTunes. It did not resolve the issue (I didn't expect that it would, but I have run into stranger things in my career).

As there is no way to roll back a Firefox installation, I just installed Firefox 48.0.2 in addition to the new version. The earlier version does not have the problem that I have described. A pox on Mozilla!

I would still be interested in knowing if it changed anything like this on the Apple OS or under Windows 10.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:20 pm

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When you are at your computer, try dragging the "Log In," "Home," or other icon under the header image. See if it is magnified when dragging.
I just tried it and it apparently works as intended - the icon is enlarged until it reaches the tab bar, then a new tab is opened and the icon goes away.

You're not being a Microsoftie and obsessing about shit that doesn't matter, are you?
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:14 pm

This has nothing to do with Microsoft. It has to do only with Firefox. My god, talk about obsessions: you seem to be obsessed with Microsoft.

What do you do when a change is made to a program and you don't like it? Do you look for a resolution or just say, "Well, that's the way it is"?

I have reverted to an earlier version of Firefox, thereby removing an irritant. Why not?
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:24 pm

BTW: When you dragged the little arrow-to-page icon, how much was it magnified? Was it as large as the example in my first post on this matter?
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:37 pm

Yes. Same size.

I use the term "Microsoftie" as a generic term for somebody who worries obsessively over colors and fonts and icon sizes to the exclusion of getting any work done. Microsoft invented that mindset; perpetuates it, glorifies it, and provides ample opportunities for the afflicted to indulge in their fripperies.


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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:43 pm

You really get your panties in a bunch over nothing.
Get over it. Not everyone wants an Apple computer. And you seem to know fuck all about anything else.
I made a big mistake posting this subject, I guess. It's impossible to discuss anything computer-related without being subjected to your deprecations. Even when Microsoft is not in any way connected to the subject at hand, you find some way to hurl insults at those who have computers with their OS.
It's getting tiresome.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:53 pm

Sorry I can't get exercised over nugatories you find so vexing.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:16 pm

And what in my posts about the issue indicated to you that I found it vexing?
I was just trying to make conversation.
That was my mistake.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:27 pm

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And what in my posts about the issue indicated to you that I found it vexing?
Oh, I dunno.
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it's doing something strange
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some web sites with dragable icons do not display this anomaly. Internet Explorer does not exhibit the problem
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I wish Firefox had a version rollback ability
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The earlier version does not have the problem that I have described. A pox on Mozilla!
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a change is made to a program and you don't like it?
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I have reverted to an earlier version of Firefox, thereby removing an irritant
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:34 am

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What do you do when a change is made to a program and you don't like it? Do you look for a resolution or just say, "Well, that's the way it is"?
Here are two concrete examples.

I have just updated to iOS 10.0.2 and Firefox 49.0.1. Previously my keyboard sound was a gentle ticking, like typing on a chiclet keyboard. Now suddenly it is three sounds: a "tock" sound when typing letters, a lower frequency tock when typing a space, and a muted "took" sound when erasing. It feels odd. I may get used to it, I may even see the logic behind doing this. If not I'll go into Control Panel and see if the old style is still available.

Item #2: previously forum replies showed a whole page of text. Now, for some reason, you can only see two lines at a time. You have to scroll up or down to see more. This is unacceptable. If there isn't a fix for this I'll be looking for a way to revert, or an upcoming fix. This is a functional inhibition, not just cosmetic.
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PostSubject: Re: Just Computers   Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:02 pm

The keyboard on my phone is mostly silent, but there is the occasional "Shit!" sound, which indicates a typo.

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