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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 2:12 pm

More Corvallis scenery:
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 2:30 pm

Nice picture, but snow and ice are not positives.

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...mild, wet winters with persistent overcast skies. Spring and fall are also moist seasons with varied cloudiness, and light rain falling for extended periods.[/b]

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Rainfall amounts can range from an average of 66.40 inches (168.7 cm) per year in the far northwest hills, compared to 43.66 inches (110.9 cm) per year at Oregon State University which is located in the center of Corvallis.

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161.2 days with measurable precipitation.


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During the mid-winter months after extended periods of rain, thick persistent fogs can form, sometimes lasting the entire day. This can severely reduce visibility to as low as 20 feet (6.1 m). The fog will often persist until a new storm system enters the area. This fog could be seen as a type of tule fog.

If you have ever driven in tule fog, you will understand why this bothers me. Try driving a truck all day in that shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 2:54 pm

My mistake. I was not aware you still worked as a long-haul trucker.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 3:00 pm

Seattle average rainfall = 37.49 in/yr
New York average rainfall = 49.92 in/yr

The difference is in how the precipitation comes down.  
Seattle averages 92 days/yr with precip.
New York averages 75.  So it comes down a lot harder when it rains.

By comparison, Corvallis gets 43.66 inches over 161.2 days.  Therefore MOST of those days are a very light drizzle, if that.  Not enough to interrupt your daily routine.

Here's some math.  Seattle averages .4075" every day it rains.

New York averages .6656".

Corvallis averages .2708".
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 3:23 pm

NoCoPilot wrote:
The difference is in how the precipitation comes down.  
Seattle averages 92 days/yr with precip.
New York averages 75.  So it comes down a lot harder when it rains.
Just for grins, I looked up a place I once visited for a couple of very wet days.
Baugio City gets 169 days a year of precipitation (only eight more than Corvallis).
Baugio averages 140 inches of rain a year - 0.83 inches per rainy day.
Year round, relative humidity ranges from 78 to 92 percent.

You need to accept the fact that I do not like rain, snow, fog, overcast, high humidity, etc.
I just don't fucking like it. Like taxes, rain is a necessity. But only the amount that is needed is acceptable; anything more I take as a personal affront.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 3:31 pm

Eastern Oregon then.

Pendleton: 14" over 40 days = .35"/day
Hermiston: 9" over 46 days = .19"/day

I really think you're overlooking a very basic truth though. Rainy places are green and don't burn up.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 3:49 pm

Nothing wrong with rainy places. Just something very wrong with too-rainy places.

And if the place had never been green (thank you, rain), there wouldn't be anything to burn.
So ... uh ... rain causes wildfires.

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 4:40 pm

_Howard wrote:
if the place had never been green there wouldn't be anything to burn
Have I got a planet for you!
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 4:46 pm

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... with too-rainy places.
Define please.

Atascadero: 23" over 30 days = .7667"/day

This is NEARLY as hard a rain as The Philippines, just less days of it. Infrequent hard rain brings flooding. And wildfires. A slow steady drizzle doesn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 4:51 pm

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Sperling's comfort index for Atascadero is a 87 out of 100, where a higher score indicates a more comfortable year-around climate.
Sperling's comfort index for Seattle is a 79 out of 100, where a higher score indicates a more comfortable year-around climate.
Sperling's comfort index for New York is a 60 out of 100, where a higher score indicates a more comfortable year-around climate.
Sperling's comfort index for Corvallis is a 76 out of 100, where a higher score indicates a more comfortable year-around climate.
Sperling's comfort index for Pendleton is a 74 out of 100, where a higher score indicates a more comfortable year-around climate
Sperling's comfort index for Hermiston is a 74 out of 100, where a higher score indicates a more comfortable year-around climate.

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Top Ten Sperling Comfort Indexes

Honolulu Metro Area, Hawaii = 95
Kapaa Metro Area, Hawaii = 94
Key West Metro Area, Florida = 93
Kahului-Wailuku-Lahaina Metro Area, Hawaii = 91
Hilo Metro Area, Hawaii = 90
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach Metro Area, Florida = 88
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim Metro Area, California = 86
San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles-Arroyo Grande Metro Area, California = 85
Santa Maria-Santa Barbara Metro Area, California = 85
Santa Cruz-Watsonville Metro Area, California = 84
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 5:01 pm

NoCoPilot wrote:
_Howard wrote:
... with too-rainy places.
Define please.
Any more rain than is necessary is too rainy. I thought I made that clear.

NoCoPilot wrote:
Atascadero: 23" over 30 days = .7667"/day
What year was that? 1969? I thought that year was about 26 or 29 inches in January.

Historical data:
Highest average monthly rainfall is 3.29" in February.
The average yearly rainfall is about 14.7 inches.

I don't care much about the anomalies.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 5:04 pm

It looks as if we rate quite highly with Sperling (whoever that is). Even made the top ten. (Sperling may not have known about Godzilla.)
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 7:56 pm

Personally?  You couldn't PAY me to live in Hawaii.  Or Florida. Hot, humid, sticky, boring, crowded, expensive.  I don't think much of Sperling's scale.


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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 7:58 pm

_Howard wrote:
Any more rain than is necessary is too rainy. I thought I made that clear.
Necessary for what?  To prevent wildfires?  To prevent water rationing?  To prevent flooding?  To have green shrubbery all around you all year long?  To grow green moss on your north side?
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 04, 2017 10:41 pm

I like the reference to "Key West metro area". Key West is barely big enough to count as an area.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 10:28 am

NoCoPilot wrote:
Necessary for what?  To prevent wildfires?  To prevent water rationing?  To prevent flooding?  To have green shrubbery all around you all year long?  To grow green moss on your north side?

In this city, with our normal rainfall of about fifteen inches, we have no water-related problems - if you discount the occasional fire. I look out my window and I can see thousands of green trees, year round. Maybe you don't consider trees as nice as shrubbery, but I like them. I can do without moss. I do have lichen on a few large rocks; does that count?

It comes down to preference. You like rain; I do not.



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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 5:31 pm

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It comes down to preference. You like rain; I do not.
As I said, infrequent hard rain brings wildfires and floods.

Frequent light drizzle does not.

You complain about wildfires and floods.  I think MAYBE you might want to think about re-examining your preferences???
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyWed Sep 06, 2017 9:56 am

If you could please show me where I expressed a preference for infrequent hard rains, I will change it immediately. It was obviously an error.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyWed Sep 06, 2017 4:11 pm

Here is our local historical average climate (without considering the last few years). This is the kind of weather I like. No hard rains, but as much as is needed.

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyWed Sep 06, 2017 4:38 pm

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(without considering the last few years). This is the kind of weather I like.
What are the chances that the weather patterns will return to "normal"?
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyWed Sep 06, 2017 4:56 pm

I really don't know. The drought we just went through was described as the worst in 500 years or 1,000 years, depending on which reports you read.

Last year, the city got about thirty inches of rain, which really isn't all that much for many places. Out here where I am we got about forty inches, which is less than the average for Corvallis, for example.

My problem is that my house doesn't like it when we get 3-4 inches of rain in a day.

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyMon Oct 16, 2017 3:37 pm

This is ridiculous. It's the middle of October and the temperature is just over ninety-nine degrees.
The average high for October is seventy-four degrees.

We've had a rather mild summer (compared to what the drought gave us), but the summer seems to be running long.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyTue Oct 24, 2017 4:45 pm

This is just getting stupid. It was 104.2 degrees today. In Oct-fucking-tober. The historical average for this day is seventy-three degrees. The previous high was 103 in 1959.

Predictions are for a slight chance of rain - 10 to 20 percent - next week.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2017 4:25 pm

November 22 and 93.5 degrees. The historical average for the day is 65 degrees.

Since July 1, we have had one quarter inch of rain. The average for this time of year is 2.3 inches. Last year at this time, we had 4.55 inches. The year before that, we had 2.91 inches. And that was a drought year.
Damn, but I wish the weather here would return to normal. I don't want another 13-inches of rain month last like January. But I also don't want to return to the drought.

Before you say it NoCo, I know things are fucked up. But I can damned well still gripe about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Hot Hot   Hot Hot Hot - Page 11 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2017 4:49 pm

Things are fucked up.

Griping won't fix it.
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